What happened to reddiquette? Did it die?

UndergroundLurker · 1 year

Honestly the one change that would do the most to improve the quality of reddit would be to remove karma from user pages. Keep the voting mechanism to filter things up and down on the page, just remove the e-peen meter that serves as the driving force behind a lot of shitty content, reposting and circlejerking. Grudge downvoting would also be an even more pointless act.

Random · 1 year

Uh, well, actually.

I've been here since pretty much the beginning. WAAAAYYYYY back.

Reddiquette is and has always been a joke.

Downvotes have always been "I don't agree" or "You are an idiot" or "Don't try to tell me how to think" or the like. Sure, Reddiquette gets brought up once in a while. Just like "we shouldn't have so many reposts" and "check it hasn't been posted already."

Whatever.

Karma is agreement. Karma pools are ego boosters. Some karma pools aid viral marketing. Reposts (especially of the same old images) are ubiquitous (found 2 in 1 minute on front page before I wrote this). That's the reality. You can write philosophical tracts all day long... it just doesn't matter.

That's like the difference between education and being educated, between being religious and showing up at Church... the thing we say it is, isn't what it is.

Schroedingers_gif · 1 year

Reddiquette is like the bro code.

No one really follows it but they are always quick to use it to aid their side in an argument.

"Hey come on man, reddiquette!"

elshizzo · 1 year

Sadly yes. I'm honestly surprised you didn't get downvoted just for bringing it up.

For people who say it doesn't matter, I disagree. When people downvote just for disagreeing, you discourage people from posting opposing viewpoints for fear of getting downvoted to hell. Essentially, it ramps up the circlejerk factor and ruins the usefulness of the comments.

And when people act like reddit was always bad, just do some cursory research and look at the frontpage and comments in the earlier years of reddit. Maybe it was inevitable, but it has changed a LOT.

fifthfiend · 1 year

Redditiquette was always fighting an uphill and stupid battle against what was clearly being communicated by the up/down arrow voting interface.

It's silly to base a site on a system that plainly and intuitively communicates that it's meant to be used a certain way and then complain when people inevitably use it that way.

thegrammarunicorn · 1 year

The rule I wish people followed the most.

Search for duplicates before posting.

I really wish people did that.

The slightly tubby girl in short shorts ... yeah ... that was just in a day...

The eggs that get cooked in urine? This is a few, about 15 links were removed because it was so reposted in the space of an hour.

splattypus · 1 year

You all thought I was crazy when I reminded people of it. Look at it now, madness everywhere. We may as well be up in trees flinging our poop at people.

downvotemaster · 1 year

go to r/politics and say you think george bush was a good president or that ceos deserve the paycheck that they deserve

go to r/gaming and say that you love what EA does as a company, think Valve is not listening to their customers, and that DLC is a fair distribution model

go to r/canada and say that Stephen Harper is a reasonable prime minister

go to r/technology and say that piracy should and remain illegal

go to r/trees and say that all drugs should be illegal and those who consume and distribute them deserve to be punished

I'm sure you will be met with downvotes no matter how good an argument you make. No one gives a shit about reddiquette because no one gives a shit about your opinion, unless they agree with it.

theraoulduke · 1 year

Reddit:

Have an opinion that's the same as everyone else? Swimming in karma.

chrisknyfe · 1 year

Yeap, reddiquette is dead.

Reddit admins should just change the algorithm so that a mass of downvotes with no upvotes == low visibility, but a mass of both upvotes and downvotes == high visibility, so that controversial posts make it to the top instead of just the most widely agreed with.

hugh_person · 1 year

I think that people follow reddiquette in the good subs. /r/nfl is good in this way, as are some of the tech reddits. I've always felt that reddiquette is the difference between the community here and the hell-holes that are most sites' comment sections, and you see that in the better subreddits.

edit forgot an apostrophe.

MrUrbanity · 1 year

What happened to rediquette?

Same thing that always happens when you take a large number of anonymous people and give them a weapon to punish people who don't agree with them. They use it to punish people who don't agree with them.

Upvote? Downvote? Doesn't matter anymore, it's like/dislike and it's a weapon to be wielded against people who have upset you in the past or against people who are expressing views you don't agree with.

fuzzybooks · 1 year

Whenever I post a controversial comment I get downvotes... on old submissions. I'd say reddiquette has been shot, bleed out, buried, dug up, beaten with a nail bat, set on fire and had its ashes dumped down a urinal. It'll probably meet another horrible fate in the sewer. As this site becomes more popular, more douchebags come, and the douchebags upvote their horrid brethren. The way of the internet and humans in general I suppose.

accountTWOpointOH · 1 year

It is "dead" on most of the larger subreddits. I think it is still applicable on my smaller subreddits though.

homezlice · 1 year

maybe we should stop blaming the users and start thinking about the UI. A down arrow (or anything pointing down, like a thumb) generally means "I think this deserves to go down"...meaning, to the uninformed, that it is something they disagree with. I suggest keeping the arrows, and then just having something ELSE that indicates that the comment or story is beneath seeing on the site - that it is not contributing anything. Like, I don't know, a trash can.

Look, I love up and down arrows for their simplicity, but I think if you have to have "rules" for how to use UI, you're doing it wrong.

mr_majorly · 1 year

Just like the Pirate Code... it's more of a guideline really.

That and the fact the community majority has become a bit younger. (Not a complaint, an observation)

flaystus · 1 year

Rapid expansion due to diggs suicide move.

I rarely downvote, I dont' see the point usually unless its just something really awful and pointless.

I'm new but have always thought of it like this. UP: AWESOME! I AGREE! NOTHING: Disagree... meh... DOWN: Why is this even here? You have failed as a human.

awkwardnubbings · 1 year

I went to a very fancy restaurant once and had to use little forks over big forks on certain dishes. I ask you why care if either accomplish the same goal regardless? I Reddit for entertainment and find fulfillment in the randomness of those who interact even in serious contexts.

Enjoy it for what it is and its okay for you to disagree. You have power to influence otherwise.

Justinw303 · 1 year

on r/politics, downvotes are used exclusively for viewpoints that don't conform to the liberal/progressive/socialist/democrat viewpoint, regardless of how polite or factually correct they are.

sidemissionchris · 1 year

downvoting a contrary opinion is... I'll just say it: for small minds. Doing so misses the point completely, the point being that good discussion depends on dissenting opinions colliding now and then.

If anything it makes more strategic sense to -upvote- something you don't agree with, so the discussion (and your response) is more prominently displayed.

I can't be the only one who thinks the system would work just as well without the 'dislike' button. At least on comments, if not posts.

Ayatrollah_Umadi · 1 year

It is now nearly universally accepted that you downvote when you disagree with a comment. I don't think anyone can revert this mentality since at least 90% of redditors are comfortable with it. Reddiquette is obsolete, it should be scrapped in my opinion. It is just an artifact from the times when reddit was an obscure tech-oriented news aggregator. The new downvoting behavior isn't that much of a problem. If you want to see the circlejerk and memes, look at top comments, if you want to see controversial debate, look at the bottom comments. It's even quite convenient.

Dalonger · 1 year

I think for a lot of people, it is too easy to downvote something disagreeable, rather than to sit and think for a second if it actually contributes to the conversation, or if it is relevant to the thread. Same goes with upvotes...given at will to anything agreeable, funny, or witty, even if it has nothing to do with the subreddit it is posted in. And many times a controversial thread will be started in the appropriate subreddit but will get instantly downvoted because the people in there disagree with it. Then the cycle continues and continues. Many will follow the rules, but there are just as many, if not more who don't. Just look at the yahoos driving on the roads next to you and you will see that rules are made to be broken. And just look at the friggin' front page, yikes.

The best course of action (for those who feel this way) is to unsubscribe to the default subreddits, or at least most of them as you see fit. Search around and try to find subreddits that follow the rules and stick to the reddiquette. They do exist, just as land does in Waterworld. Good luck in your travels. I'm going to eat my Chocodiles now.

x3nopon · 1 year

The problem is after -5 your comment gets hidden, so you can't really add to the conversation if you don't have a hivemind approved opinion. There is no discussion of any "conservative" view, it just gets downvoted until its hidden, and if the comment is lucky the pain stops there.

The only sanity left here is in /circlejerk. The inmates have taken over the asylum in /politics, /atheism, and /gaming. I'm sure many more subs will follow down this path before we all move on to the next big thing.

GhostShogun · 1 year

They thought the down arrow was a disagree button.

It is. Look to the right: "570 points (74% like it)"

GeorgeYung25 · 1 year

My brother's introductory rules to me were: You upvote if it makes you laugh or if you feel educated after the comment. You downvote if its worthless, and you wish you hadn't bothered.

ShwaggBags · 1 year

I used to read reddit and engage in insightful conversations, now I skim reddit and try to ignore annoying puns.

SCVader · 1 year

The code is the law. ಠ_ಠ

Clone019 · 1 year

I just read Reddiquette and realized I am a horrible person... and so is everyone else. ಠ_ಠ

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