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[–]StabbyStabStab 18 points19 points ago

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If I'm already wearing makeup, why would I wash it off before going to the gym? I'm likely going to shower afterwards, so why exert the extra effort?

[–]squinkie 0 points1 point ago

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This is pretty much why I wear makeup at the gym as well. I usually go when I'm already out doing other things, so instead of going home, washing everything off (why?) and then heading back out to the gym, it makes more sense to just head out the door with a change of clothes, makeup on, and stop there while I'm out. I make it my last stop and head home for a shower after that.

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[–]StabbyStabStab 5 points6 points ago

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Regardless of the effect of the make-up on skin, it's still not your problem. I try to avoid getting involved in other people's cleanliness choices unless it's someone whose personal hygiene affects me directly. Think of a coworker wearing so much perfume/cologne that it's suffocating you or a family member who leaves dishes to rot in the sink(that's more cleanliness than personal hygiene, but you get my point).

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[–]StabbyStabStab -2 points-1 points ago

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I'm not offended, I just didn't understand why you cared about other people washing their faces. I assumed the tone to be congruent with the original post. It seems to me that as long as you shower afterwards, whatever makeup didn't melt off your face from sweat would simply wash away then.

That said, I have no idea if it has dermatological impacts. I'd say that it's probably a better question for /r/askscience, but it might cross the line of asking for medical advice... Or maybe there's a skin care sub?

[–]peppermind 1 point2 points ago

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It's not great for the makeup, since it will generally melt off, but I don't think sweat will change how makeup affects your skin long term.

[–]drachenstern 1 point2 points ago

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I have the same question, don't worry :D

[–]squinkie 0 points1 point ago

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Washing/scrubbing your face too much daily can do even more damage than sweating off makeup. I don't think it does that much, to be honest. As long as you take a shower and wash off the sweat/grime/makeup instead of letting it sit there for hours you should be fine. It's no different than putting makeup on at night and then going clubbing and sweating there. Wearing makeup at the gym isn't any more weird or damaging then wearing it to a club. People do what makes them comfortable, that's really the only reason you need.

[–]poesie 17 points18 points ago

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For whatever reason they are more comfortable doing so. Is it that big a deal?

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[–]poesie 5 points6 points ago

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I look like shit at the gym, so I guess I am not your target audience. It's one reason I like the female-only gym, because I can just go and concentrate on the workout.

[–]Beigis 3 points4 points ago

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I don't get this (male). Why are you unable to concentrate on your workout in a normal gym and what does it have to do with makeup?

[–]poesie 14 points15 points ago

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I get distracted if I don't look my best, especially if I see a guy who I think is attractive. I am able to concentrate in a regular gym and frequently go to one, but I feel much less pressure to look good in a female-only gym so it's a bit easier to deal with. I can just drop everything and go without worrying about someone looking at my face or my ass in my yoga pants and feeling like I meet their criteria or not (or whether I am flashing some panty lines, which I undoubtedly am).

I have always felt that in my dealings with men, that a yes-or-no decision is made, and mostly unspoken. Would I, or wouldn't I? Sometimes when I fall on the no side for someone, it feels really bad. It's distracting. I want to just get my workout done without those kinds of thoughts.

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[–]Beigis 3 points4 points ago

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Hm and I thought I was insecure and worried too much about being judged, but that seems to be quite common. I had to laugh at your post, but not because I think it's stupid to feel this way. I guess I qualified for one of those "strong" (albeit not that muscular) guys and always assumed that girls thought of me as a meathead and that was the reason they left. So maybe both sides feel like they're being judged by the other.

Trust me, no dude who has a remote idea of what he is doing will judge anyone for using the weight he/she uses. If I see someone who never trains anything but chest, arms and aby I'll have less respect for him than for a "weakling" who works out with proper from and puts in effort.

If you don't leave but use the free weights instead I'll guarantee you that you'll have a bunch of those guys swarming around you and offering help/trying to strike up a conversation by giving you advice.

I'd say it's even refreshing to see a woman actually WORK out in the gym. To be honest, I tend to view the girls who wear make-up to the gym and are dressed up more critically than the ones who don't use anything and wear real workout clothes. The first group always seems to disappear after a few months. Unfortunately, most women I see at the gym are more concerned about their looks than about their workout, or so it seems. I started going to another gym recently and it was the first time that I saw a women doing squats with good form and not just because her trainer told her to try them. She just came in, went to the rack, loaded up a bar with about 130 lbs and started. This girl was much more appealing/interesting despite the fact that I didn't even find her physically attractive. But she just stood out from all the women who won't touch a dumbbell unless it's pink and spend hours on the hip abductor to get toned legs.

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[–]Beigis 1 point2 points ago

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I don't get why you're being downvoted -- I, for one, appreciate your honesty. Perhaps my gym is an anomaly, but whenever I'm there, the ladies tend to stick to the cardio (elliptical, treadmill, climbers), and the weight room is dominated by men. I like to start with cardio and then move to weights / circuit training, and I always feel a little strange walking into the weight area when I'm the only woman, which is almost all of the time.

That's exactly my experience. Women stick to the hip abductor (probably because its closes to the cardio machines) and cardio machines, guys stick to benchpress, dumbbell curls and crunches.

About those "superhumans"....One older guy at my gym used to be a powerlifter and if he sees that someone is really trying, is there regularly and generally focuses on his workout he's the first one to offer help and advice. At the same time this guy is intimidating as hell to those who don't know him yet. 200+ lbs, uses weights in the 500lbs and upwards range, screams from the top of his lungs during his last reps and his other hobby is kickboxing. I didn't even dare to train near him when I started working out. Turned out to be a really chill and calm dude. Same for two other bodybuilder-type of guys. Always helpful and down-to-earth.

I'd say the stronger and more experienced guys are also the least judgmental. At least towards people who put in effort.

Something that might happen would be that you intimidate male beginners after some time. Because using less weight than a woman just feels bad. It's the pinnacle of emasculation, or at least it feels like it to most.

[–]tiggerwoman 0 points1 point ago

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Good job there are no lesbians in the gym making the same judgements ..

[–]poesie 0 points1 point ago

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There are plenty of lesbians at the women-only gym, but I don't feel judged by them in the same way, no.

[–]drachenstern -1 points0 points ago

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As a guy, I just want to be honest for a moment, and if you feel the need to downvote me or hate me or think I'm a misogynist, and it helps you sleep better at night, do so (this is not directed at poesie but at all readers who are going to be inflamed because some people are).

We are going to check you out. We're not going to just fuck you right there tho. So what? You check us out too.

But when you're at a gym, you're there to improve yourself, so what you look like today and what you look like in six months are apt to be totally different.

And we're generally very visual creatures, meaning once we've left the gym, unless you made some sort of emotional connection with us, we're going to forget you. Yes, we may get to see you several times a month and therefore come up with some sort of "mutual neighborness" or something, in that we'll remember having seen you before, and smile and nod more than we might. We might even compliment you on how well you look like you're making progress if we've had a conversation in the past or something.

But we're going to forget you before we see you next.

What I'm saying is, if one of us checks you out and says "nope, wouldn't" what does that matter? We're not going to remember that later. It's a very visceral, immediate reaction.

I don't know how else to explain this, but I hope I'm doing a good job of it.

Anyways, my point was, please don't get that hung up on it, we're worried about our man-boobs and our entire bodies being drenched in sweat and do we smell bad and are turning off everybody in our general area and are we drinking enough water and are we doing enough weights that we don't look like total pussies and holy shit we can't keep up on the treadmill anymore how are they doing it ....

So anyways, hopefully that wasn't just random whatever

[–]poesie 3 points4 points ago

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Sure! All that makes sense, and I don't think you'll necessarily remember. I have perceived 'No. Yes. No. Maybe. Yes.' at different times from the same guy. Sometimes it's amusing, sometimes good, sometimes disheartening.

But I remember it. And even if I don't remember it personally from you (unlikely) I will remember it as an aggregate of uncomfy feelings. Feelings that distract me from what is sometimes a hard mission of just getting to the gym, spending enough time, keeping positive, working toward fitness goals. Edit: Of course, I totally check guys and everyone out, but I don't want to bother getting distracted by that.

I just want to show up looking like shit and at the end be all sweaty and gross and later feel really good. Forget everything, including whether I am fuckable, and just work.

[–]drachenstern 2 points3 points ago

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Me too. (((togetherness hugs)))

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[–]drachenstern -1 points0 points ago

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thanks

[–]alettuce 4 points5 points ago

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In a co-ed gym creepers will stop at the door of my dance class and just stare at us for like, 10 minutes. It's nice to be in an all female environment and just look like whatever, make-up or no. (I'm guessing most folks wearing make-up just wear it generally, it's not as if they put it on for the workout. They are likely to shower after the workout, and would take off the make-up then.)

[–]weelass 4 points5 points ago

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I would never put on make up to go to the gym but if I am already wearing it I probably wouldn't wash it off. I only go to the gym for one purpose though (to work out) and I usually don't even talk to other people there.

[–]SupriyaLimaye 2 points3 points ago

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If I'm wearing make-up at the gym, it's because I was wearing make-up before I went to the gym, for work or whatever, and there's no reason to take the time to take it off.

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I should add that I have nothing against women wearing makeup or styling their hair as they see fit.

That's the answer to your question: "they see fit."

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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It's for the same reason you do your hair and makeup when you go out...

edit: ...even though it may seem illogical to some...

[–]silverpoon 1 point2 points ago

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maybe they come into the gym from some other venue

[–]retro-chic1 0 points1 point ago

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I might put a bit of cheap face powder on, but thats because I go on the weight machines for about 30 mins before hand....which i hardly sweat on. Theres also a lot of blokes at my gym, so self-consciousness is at a high.

[–]WhyNotTeaAndCoffee 0 points1 point ago

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Personally it's a tie between a few things; I get really annoyed by being perceived as attractive from looks, no matter how often or rare, I'd rather it be obvious that I have make-up on, I enjoy using make-up to set my mood for the day and have some type of meaning to me (IE a palette of blues if I'm feeling down, red/orange/black/brown if If my mind will be on a warpath that day, purples will be added if I'm feeling whimsical, some colours for certain things on my mind or for certain encounters I know of beforehand that day, etc.. Also, the gym is on my time, not my punch-card's, I can mellow it out for work.).

I'm not the girl that will wear hot-pants and a sports bra or tank-top with make-up to try and looks appealing, make-up just allows me to be in my comfort zone around others and keep some people away easier. I don't enjoy catching someone staring at my ass/breasts/legs, but being written off as a freak/weirdo by many? Totally fine and pretty true.

Edit - I'm fairly lazy when I change for the gym, and if I went out for a normal day with stockings or nylons I just leave them on. I wear long shorts (around the knee) since they're easier to move in, so it shouldn't be a big appearance deal far as I see. Some type of comfortable and modest shirt is ideal for me.

[–]kuole 0 points1 point ago

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I can see why someone wouldn't want to wash their face before a work out if they're going to shower after it.

[–]fantastic_lee 0 points1 point ago

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I'm very self conscious so i do have a bit of eyeliner on but nothing more than that because i'll just sweat it off anyway.

[–]raisinnn 0 points1 point ago

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Sometimes women come straight from work to the gym and don't take their makeup off. Then there's women who put makeup on just for the gym. I'm guessing they are too self conscious to go out of the house without makeup or they're trying to pick up guys.

Personally, I never wear makeup because it's just going to sweat off and leave a greasy mess on my face. Not only will I look ten times worse, I'll probably break out.

[–]youngpunk 0 points1 point ago

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i work as a makeup artist, and go into work with a full face every day, when im off i go to the gym with zero makeup, but when i go from work ill usually wipe my skin makeup off, but leave my eyelashes and eye makeup on. i look so weird at the gym lol.

[–]aislingcats 0 points1 point ago

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Maybe they work at night...

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Maybe she was looking for a mate.

[–]StabbyStabStab 3 points4 points ago

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You don't know what her situation is though. You may not see her breaking a sweat, but for all you know, she's post-op on foot surgery and working on learning to properly distribute weight again. I don't go to a gym to do it, but I have to dedicate time to just focusing on walking so I can hope to learn to walk properly again. If doing that at a gym helps someone focus, why not?

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[–]StabbyStabStab 1 point2 points ago

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You still really don't know that. I've been told by my doctor that I can't go running anymore. I'm also supposed to avoid walking for long periods of time and hiking and anything high impact. It's all about delaying the next surgery. You don't know that she isn't in the same situation.

And even if that isn't the case for her, I don't see why her workout (or walk-out) is your problem. It's her prerogative how she's going to exercise, even if it seems like a waste of time to you. It's a waste of her time.

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[–]StabbyStabStab 2 points3 points ago

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I hope I don't face ableism like this in the new gym I'll be at in a few weeks. I don't look disabled, but I still have a handicap placard and probably couldn't walk more than a mile at a time. And if I know I'm not going to get sweaty and gross during a workout, I probably won't get dressed to work out either.

[–]Isthatrite 0 points1 point ago

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What the fuck is an ableist?

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[–]StabbyStabStab 2 points3 points ago

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You don't have to be aware of a disability in order to discriminate against it. By presuming that everyone is non-disabled, society encourages environments that are inaccessible to disabled people.

I'm defending her because she isn't here, and while I am projecting, it's largely because I hope that if someone gets angry like this at me for being seemingly lazy in a situation where I can't defend myself, someone else will.

[–]Isthatrite 0 points1 point ago

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How is it presuming that everyone is non-disabled when you see the same person in the gym for two years all dressed up and not working out very hard?

Aren't you making a presumption also by assuming that she is disabled?

[–]StabbyStabStab 0 points1 point ago

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As far as I'm concerned, I'm providing a counterpoint to subwayisaporno's point. She appears to be assuming that the other woman conforms to her perception of 'normal,' which is able bodied. Imo, that's ableism.

Edit: changing "your" to "subwayisaporno"(and all the verb/pronoun tense changes) since I messed up on my phone. Sorry!

[–]Impudence 0 points1 point ago

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Maybe she finds it mentally calming, maybe she has some sort of joint problem or other health issue and can't run, maybe she doesn't like the weather outside, maybe she's sensitive to the sun, maybe she lives in a bad neighborhood and doesn't feel safe walking alone there. It doesn't really matter- as long as she's paying her gym membership she can use the equipment in whatever manner she wants within the rules. So she pays 40 bucks a month or whatever to walk. So what?

[–]analfuck -3 points-2 points ago

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Insecurity

[–]baaaaanana -1 points0 points ago

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I am unsure if I saw this in the comments, but they can also hope to meet a guy at the gym.... it happens.