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submitted 11 months ago by Th3MetalHead
This is my first year training so my question is what do you do in Ramadan?
[–]TheAesirPowerlifting (Competitive) 113 points114 points115 points 11 months ago
Not muslim, however I have done a lot of fasted training. If you train in the afternoon/evening, you should be good till after dark when you can eat.
Husain Abdullah was a safety for the Vikings, and participated in all team events while also observing Ramadan. Take a look at the leangains and intermitted fasting approaches and apply them to your situation.
[–]Nonnormalizable 36 points37 points38 points 11 months ago
As someone who doesn't follow football, I was really confused how a Muslim could have been with the Vikings.
[–]GoodbyeBlueMonday 26 points27 points28 points 11 months ago
I'm about to blow your mind then: read here about Ahmad ibn Fadlan, a Muslim who lived with Vikings for a while back in the 10th century.
[–]nattylightandsluts 14 points15 points16 points 11 months ago
you, you are why I like reddit.
[–]GoodManSuperdan 8 points9 points10 points 11 months ago
there was a film about it, with Antonio Banderas
[–]GoodbyeBlueMonday 7 points8 points9 points 11 months ago
The book the film is based on was pretty good: Eaters of the Dead by Michael Crichton.
[–]GoodManSuperdan 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
Ah wow, I never knew about the book. Thanks!
[–]GoodbyeBlueMonday 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Thank you.
[–]A_WILD_ABRA_APPEARED 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
I follow football and was still confused for a moment.
[–]TheAesirPowerlifting (Competitive) 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
Given how terrible our pass defense was last season I can understand if someone might not remember that we had safeties.
[–]thetensorCrossfit (Intermediate) 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
My first thought was that the Varangian Guard had to be involved somehow.
[–]Jeffy29 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I tought it was another shitty historical movie with Kevin Costner
[–]in_my_tree 19 points20 points21 points 11 months ago
Hakeem Olajuwon also observed Ramadan during almost every season he played, he was even known to generally play better during Ramadan actually.
[–]theblackestbrothaPowerlifting (Competitive) 12 points13 points14 points 11 months ago
Actually, all the sports writers in Houston had an annual "shit your pants" party when Ramadan came around bc that was when Hakeem saw the least amount of playing time due to fatigue. He was still the best in the league at the time, but he wasn't at his best.
[–]in_my_tree 7 points8 points9 points 11 months ago
yeah, you could be right, I actually just got the info from wikipedia.
"Olajuwon was noted as sometimes playing better during the month, and in 1995 he was named NBA Player of the Month in February, even though Ramadan began on February 1 of that year"
At times, he performed better than when he wasn't fasting apparently. After checking the citations on wiki, the sources used do not necessarily make that statement specifically.
Anyway, here's more on Olajuwon and fasting from his bio on NBA.com:
Olajuwon believes that his religious faith supported his drive to a great career. During an NBA season he observes Islam's Ramadan, which includes periods of fasting. He would awaken before dawn to eat precisely seven dates -- the traditional Muslim fast-breaking food -- and to drink a gallon of water. He would follow with a prayer for strength and have no food or liquid until sunset. When he played an afternoon game, he would pant for water -- but did not drink a drop. Still, he would say, “I find myself full of energy, explosive. And when I break the fast at sunset, the taste of water is so precious."
Olajuwon believes that his religious faith supported his drive to a great career. During an NBA season he observes Islam's Ramadan, which includes periods of fasting. He would awaken before dawn to eat precisely seven dates -- the traditional Muslim fast-breaking food -- and to drink a gallon of water. He would follow with a prayer for strength and have no food or liquid until sunset.
When he played an afternoon game, he would pant for water -- but did not drink a drop. Still, he would say, “I find myself full of energy, explosive. And when I break the fast at sunset, the taste of water is so precious."
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 38 points39 points40 points 11 months ago
Thanks brother :)
[–]TheAesirPowerlifting (Competitive) 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
good luck
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Haha thanks :)
[–]BulkUpTaru[] 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Upvote, definitely check out IF
[–]ChurchillDownz -49 points-48 points-47 points 11 months ago
This is such a reddit response. "Not a <insert exactly what OP was looking for> BUT..."
[–]Gimli_The_Dwarf 21 points22 points23 points 11 months ago
It's a great response, and it's something I've been doing for over fifteen years.
Someone asks a question. I know something that should be helpful, so I'll just post it. Because folks are far more likely to correct something than post into a vacuum.
[–]Frogtech 44 points45 points46 points 11 months ago
Sleep at daytime, bulk and train at night time in a 24/7 gym.
[–]Noedel 67 points68 points69 points 11 months ago
full cheatmode
[–]terafunker 72 points73 points74 points 11 months ago
AKA unemployed bachelor mode.
[–]Moonear 34 points35 points36 points 11 months ago
Sleeping during the day causes you to miss your prayers, which negates the fast.
[–]AgentDoubleM7 10 points11 points12 points 11 months ago
Set an alarm and get up for those prayers.
[–]AAlsmadi1 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
It doesn't negate your fast.
[–]cleantoe 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
But intentionally sleeping to avoid fasting does. The whole point of fasting is solidarity - rich or poor, you feel the same hunger and thirst.
[–]AhmedFSupplement Sultan/Sexiest Body 2012 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Uhh - that is not true.
[–]StackShitThatHigh 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I've heard it been said many times. That's one of the purposes, to humble all men to the same level.
Citation needed that you are "not allowed to sleep through your fast"
Many Muslim countries essentially shut down during the entire day.
[–]AAlsmadi1 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I don't think it works that way. God is not the DMV. Everything gets counted and accounted for. Its not like you do one thing and god stamps void over your day of fasting...
There's more than one point for Ramadan.
[–]cleantoe 8 points9 points10 points 11 months ago
Intentionally sleeping so as to avoid fasting most certainly voids it. Why bother fasting at all if you're just going to do your best to skip it? You may as well eat food and drink water if that's the case.
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[–]OhMyTruth 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
They could just look up what the Quran and Hadith say about it instead of arguing. Furthermore, agreement is not necessary as religion is a personal thing.
Also, there is much debate in the scientific community. Do you not believe in Science, because scientists can't be "absolute [in] what [they] are actually believing in?"
[–]AAlsmadi1 -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago
You know there's a hadith, it goes along the lines of, that one of the arguments the shitan uses is to remind you of your shortcomings, and urging you to lose hope in the mercy of god. "Why are you doing x, you don't even pray. Hypocrite." And I've hered many people tell me they don't fast, or participate in other religious events, because they say they feel like hypocrites. I understand your attitude, but I also think that it does more harm, to use words like negate, and disqualify.
[–]TheCocksmith -2 points-1 points0 points 11 months ago
Are you kidding me? Do you know what Saudis do all day during Ramadan, when their shops are closed during the day time? They nap. All day long. Then wake up to pray. Then nap some more.
[–]jeffanie96 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
I agree that it doesn't break your fast, but let's not look to Saudis to figure out what's halal and haraam.
[–]unikuser 9 points10 points11 points 11 months ago
When should I go to work then?
[–]shstmo 8 points9 points10 points 11 months ago
Well, it's either sleeping or redditing at work. Sleeping seems more productive from a fitness standpoint.
[–]a5ph 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
I concur.
[–]officerha 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
We work too bro.
[–]Socialmessup 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Unfortunately most have a life and what I mean is I wish I could do this but my nights are only reserved for sleeping at the moment
[–]iBS_PartyDoc 56 points57 points58 points 11 months ago
Try intermittent fasting? It's only a daylight fast correct, if so this would probably fit into the schedule.
[–]PropaneFitness 11 points12 points13 points 11 months ago
Lol 'try intermittent fasting' - that's kind of the point of Ramadan :P
[–]No1005 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
^ without the water.
[–]solidsnakem9 13 points14 points15 points 11 months ago
Wrong, eating or drinking anything at all will break your fast (unless it's unintentional and by accident, ie. you accidentally take a sip of water, but not if you 'accidentally' eat a whole meal lol).
If it's an emergency, like you're sick or about to die or something like that, then yes you are allowed to drink water, but that still breaks your fast though, you're just excused from fasting that day and will make up the day sometime after Ramadan ends.
[–]owensd 8 points9 points10 points 11 months ago
This is correct, plus you can't bleed or engage in sexual activities. I have participated in a day or two of Ramadan since my high school football days. Two of my friends had to practice on empty stomachs and without water breaks. I did it two days that summer, and it was brutal.
Interesting bit of information about Ramadan, the feasts in the morning and at night are so big, a lot of people say they gain weight during the month!
[–]solidsnakem9 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Yeah the feasts are definitely big, people tend to really pig out (and I don't blame them lol) and end up eating late and gaining weight lol.
[–]MyoAMGPersonal Training 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
I did football condition in Ramadan back in high school and it was terrible, but still, it was nothing compared to our wrestling conditioning. Those sessions were the ones that really separate the men from the boys. Looking back, I laugh at people who used to complain about football being a physically demanding sport.
Also, about the bleeding part, the consensus is that if you bleed to a point where blood is dripping, that invalidates your fast. There's a difference between a little nick while shaving and getting shot point blank, the latter, of course, will invalidate your fast.
[–]owensd 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Haha I wrestled in high school as well, and I will agree with you that there is nothing like it conditioning wise. Kicked my ass day in and day out. I sorta miss it haha.
Never had wrestling during Ramadan, but I did make cuts which were similar.
Thanks for that info on the blood, I wasn't really sure. All I knew was that my buddy bled one day (got cut at the bottom of a pile) and then immediately went and drank water. He was really pissed for the rest of practice.
[–]michiganbob2k 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Working out without water is just foolish. I don't think your god wants you to kill yourself...
Just take the day off.
[–]solidsnakem9 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago*
You can't just take the day off because you want to work out, it's not an optional thing. You need to schedule your workouts around fasting, not the other way around.
And yeah you can't have water but you don't have to work out during the day, if it's going to break your fast and it's not an emergency and doesn't concern your livelihood then there's no valid reason you can break it.
EDIT: Ahh nvm I see you prob meant take day off from working out.
[–]anonanom 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
I'm pretty sure he meant "take the day off from training".
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 16 points17 points18 points 11 months ago
Thanks, will do :)
[–]Fenris78 32 points33 points34 points 11 months ago
Out of interest, does that mean Ramadan is tougher the further North of the equator you go? You'd only need to fast 12 hours in Colombia but you'd be pretty fucked in Iceland right?
[–]pappeske[] 66 points67 points68 points 11 months ago
Not Muslim here, but I live in Norway and my Muslim friends mentioned that the muslim council has "set" a time period of fast as you can't really follow the sun.
[–]WinterAyars 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Presumably a "fair" schedule would be to follow whatever it is in Mecca, right?
(Not a Muslim, myself.)
[–]tqafg96 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Yeah, for places where the Sunrise and Sunset times are too far apart, they follow the Saudi Arabian prescribed times for fasting.
[–]pappeske[] 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I would assume so.
[–]AshNazgMilitary 25 points26 points27 points 11 months ago
At certain places on the Earth, where the sun rises and sets at weird times, they use Mecca's time to judge when they should fast.
[–]dopamean 18 points19 points20 points 11 months ago
12th June 2012 - Reykjavik, Iceland
Sunrise 03:00
Sunset 23:56
Sounds like you would be pretty fucked in Iceland, having to go without food and water for 21 hours a day for 30 days in a row.
[–]DrDerpberg 19 points20 points21 points 11 months ago
This dude's right. I think they go by Mecca time past a certain latitude. But it's pretty brutal in almost-northern regions where the fasting period can easily be 14-15 hours.
Sidenote: there is active discussion as to which direction someone should face to pray in space. They've thought of everything.
[–]Rudacris 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
direction
...
in space
uh?
[–]palpatinus 13 points14 points15 points 11 months ago
As in how to pray towards mecca if you happen to not currently be located on or near the surface of the earth.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 11 months ago
Well, I'm pretty sure they should point at Earth.
[–]DrDerpberg 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Yeah but where Mecca is changes pretty fast when you're zipping around in orbit.
[–]szaero 13 points14 points15 points 11 months ago*
I hope they construct a platform inside 3 gimbals that automatically orient toward mecca as the spacecraft is moving.
[–]14domino 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
You realize that even if you're on the surface of the Earth, in most places your prayer mat would have to be directly facing INTO the ground.
[–]palpatinus 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Which is why they use the direction of the great circle route to mecca.
[–]i_love_goatsUltimate Frisbee (Competitive) 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Boom, geography burn.
[–]DrDerpberg 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Think about it. If you're in orbit you're going around the planet every 90 minutes or so. Even if you point at Mecca, by the end of your prayer you will almost certainly be well off course.
Pretty sure that general agreement is that you start pointing towards Mecca, but I could be wrong about that.
[–]xmnstrPowerlifting 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
That's almost identical to what it's like now where I live. Gothenburg, Sweden.
[–]Dr_Kerporkian 13 points14 points15 points 11 months ago
Yeah but my god man, your metal is to die for.
[–]xmnstrPowerlifting 11 points12 points13 points 11 months ago
Imagine what winter is like here and you'll understand why.
[–]Dr_Kerporkian 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
In the words of Nathan Explosion. Brutal.
[–]idkwut 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Gives me a whole new meaning to 'Crawl Through Knives'.
[–]Stephen9o3Boxing 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
Ramadan slowly rotates around the (western) calendar. So when it lands in the summer, yeah it would suck, but eventually it would make its way around to winter and it would be much easier than other areas. I worked last summer with a Muslim man, and we would work 9 hours on our feet and he wouldn't eat or drink. On my last day (I was a summer student) he even went out and bought a big box of doughnuts from Tim Hortons.. but couldn't eat any himself because it was still Ramadan.
[–]stevenlss1 7 points8 points9 points 11 months ago
That's a really interesting question. They just built a mosque in Inuvik. I've been there during 24 hour sun, it's a cool place.
The MacKenzie Hotel has a scotch night on Tuesday, pretty much everything is $4! It's really messed up getting bombed and stumbling outside into broad day light at 3am....
[–]jaggederest 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
It's based on the calendar, not the actual sun. Usually it's from first prayer to last prayer, if I remember right. Prayers are based on the sun but have some flexibility.
Although:
http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=IC1008-4253
Says some people fast and pray according to the times observed in Mecca, which makes a lot of sense.
For example, in my city, you would be fasting from 5:20am to 11:25pm today.
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
I live in Sweden so we break our fast aprox 11 pm
[–]AgentJohnson 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Definitley don't try to start all in one day while training. Might be a good idea to ramp up ahead of time. Otherwise switching one day will suuuckkk
[–]incredulitor 19 points20 points21 points 11 months ago
Not a Muslim but happened across some papers on Ramadan when I was working out a judo training plan and experimenting with intermittent fasting.
Lots of stuff out there: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=ramadan+judo&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C38&as_sdtp=
The summary seems to be you're free to work out, strength should be fine but expect a little less endurance.
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 7 points8 points9 points 11 months ago
Thanks man helped a lot :)
[–]sarge1016 32 points33 points34 points 11 months ago
Really good article on the Stronglifts site about intermittent fasting and Ramadan. It's what I plan to do. http://stronglifts.com/ramadan-weight-lifting-training-build-muscle-lose-fat/
Good luck, brother.
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 12 points13 points14 points 11 months ago
Good luck to you too brother :)
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 11 points12 points13 points 11 months ago
Really helpful btw
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 11 months ago
As a non-Muslim (not religious at all really), I just wanted to say thanks for giving me some insight into how you all do things. I'm hugely into learning about other cultures and find this fascinating. :D
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
No problem man anytime :)
[–]cheeboiga 11 points12 points13 points 11 months ago
PEOPLE, DON'T FORGET THAT HE CAN'T DRINK WATER, EITHER!
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
True shit
[–]cheeboiga 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Honestly, what I would do is eat a protein and carb-heavy meal for iftar, followed by a late-night gym session (2-3 hours after the meal). Then, sleep that bad boy off with a good 8 hours. If you're the type who wakes up for breakfast before sunrise (I was not), then try and get some rest afterwards.
Another approach is to go on a month-long cut, with minimal exercise. You can probably lose a healthy 6-10 pounds doing so. WHen you go back to the gym after a month, you'll be ripped like Jesus, and you can focus on your gains. You shouldn't lose too much muscle mass during the fast, as long as you keep your protein intake up.
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Haha i love your comment it's helpful and hilarious :D
[–]PropaneFitness 17 points18 points19 points 11 months ago
Salam bro - I wrote up this protocol for training in Ramadan, which I shall be doing myself. The article outlines my experiences in previous Ramadans and how to train during the month with a goal of muscle retention.
You may gain some strength if you follow the protocol, but the emphasis is on maintaining the spiritual focus on the purpose of Ramadan while allowing training to take a back seat without regressing.
Nice one bro :) thanks
[–]VaudevilleVillainMartial Arts 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
I've been doing leangains for about 4 weeks now and will rejig my routine when it Ramadhan starts. The hardest part will off course be the no water part but depending on routine and will power you should be able to do it.
Yeah I'll probably do leangains Thanks :)
[–]drummerman345 10 points11 points12 points 11 months ago
Depends on what your schedule is like and what your work capacity is like. If you can, you can do leangains style and just lift before you break your fast, but the hard part here is to do it w/o water, obviously. if you have the discipline, you could do it after you break your fast or before fajr.
[–]bo_knowsWeightlifting (Intermediate) 23 points24 points25 points 11 months ago
Whoa, the Ramadan fast includes going without water as well? I didn't know that. Brutal.
[–]bo_knowsWeightlifting (Intermediate) 9 points10 points11 points 11 months ago
Holy crap, people love to take things to the extreme to 1-up eachother
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Includes no toothpaste either for those guys. You can judge the level of fundamentalism from how bad their breath smells.
[–]Shopno 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
lol that's weird because we brush right after eating before sunrise.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago
The hardcore ones don't because they don't even want the taste of toothpaste when the fast begins.
[–]drummerman345 15 points16 points17 points 11 months ago
Yup, food, water, medicine...probably some other things that im also not thinking of. water is definitely the hardest for me though.
[–]jimcrator 10 points11 points12 points 11 months ago
Wow. Back when I wrestled, I used to go without water for approx 20 hour periods twice a week for weigh-ins and it wasn't particularly difficult, but I can't imagine what it must be like to give up medicine, especially if it's something that you can't skip like antibiotics or something that's keeping you from being deathly ill.
Can you refer me to a source that says you are supposed to forgo medicine during Ramadan? A quick google search seems to bring up a consensus that if you're sick you can take medicine and opt out of the fast.
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 23 points24 points25 points 11 months ago
Well in islam if you're really ill (one who must take medicines everyday) it's not obligatory to fast. Same thing if you got a flu
[–]jimcrator 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
That's what I got from the google results as well.
[–]drummerman345 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago
A quick google search seems to bring up a consensus that if you're sick you can take medicine and opt out of the fast.
Well, yeah. If you're sick enough that you need medicine to get through the day/life/whatever then its okay if you don't fast. But when I said medicine, I meant like "Oh, I have a headache, lemme take some Tylenol." And of course, you can have them when you're not fasting, thats when I take my allergy meds.
[–]KanigetFigure Skating 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
You have to make up for it and fast another time, right?
[–]BaconWrappedEnigma 8 points9 points10 points 11 months ago
If you can't fast because of meds, you can't fast. You have to pay to feed a certain amount of people who cannot feed themselves.
[–]drummerman345 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
If you cant fast because you have diabeetus, it doesnt matter what month it is
From what I've heard, if it's like an essential injection like insulin, you can still hold the fast. You're not allowed to get saline through IV though, LOL. If you are actually physically incapable of performing the fast (not like, oh it's difficult, I don't feel like it) due to an illness, you are exempt from fasting. All you must do is provide food to someone who is fasting, and you get the same reward that you would have otherwise gotten.
[–]AhmedFSupplement Sultan/Sexiest Body 2012 -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago
That statement about medicine is flat out untrue.
[–]Trenks 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
No medicine?? Please tell me you break that one when you have cancer and the like..
[–]Atersed 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
Yeah, you don't fast if you're elderly, sick, pregnant ... etc
[–]jeffanie96 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
only during daylight hours. You can take your meds before dawn and after sunset
There is an exception for people who take insulin..well they gave a fatwa for that, I don't know how many people follow that but I am glad they did.
[–]bo_knowsWeightlifting (Intermediate) 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Damn, more power to you.
[–]bijoudarling 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Medicine is allowed from what I understand as are the exceptions for fasting, pregnancy and illness(serious not things like colds)
Medicine? Nope.
[–]leeringHobbit -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago
sex
[–]lee_ror -12 points-11 points-10 points 11 months ago
Heaven (yea yeaI know) forbid there's a medicine that the individual needs to live.
[–]VaudevilleVillainMartial Arts 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Actually if you need to take medicine to keep you alive then you're excused from fasting. Even if the medicine doesn't keep you alive but keeps you functioning or are things such as painkillers (tramadol for example) then you are excused.
[–]shyggWeightlifting (Beginner) 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
So basically anyone who takes medicines will be excused from the rule of "no medicines while fasting" :D
[–]atanerCycling 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
So, from what I understand, if you are epileptic, diabetic, have heart problems and need meds for these, you are ok (I'd guess diabetic people can't fast either). But if you have a heartburn, headache, some sort of occasional pain, deal with it and keep fasting?
[–]godlessatheist 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
This is actually a good question. Why is there a rule for no medicine when people that need the medicine are excused? I'm not asking this in a disrespectful manner I'm just genuinely curious.
The rule is nothing by mouth during daylight hours. Most people take their meds before dawn and after sunset. I switched to a transdermal patch for one of my meds that I needed to take during the day. If it is not an optional medication, then you don't have to fast but should make it up by feeding poor people what you normally eat for each day missed, and then make the day up later if possible.
The sick are excused because it's not supposed to kill you.
[–]VaudevilleVillainMartial Arts 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Pretty much yeah.
You can take your meds before dawn and after sunset. Nothing by mouth during the day. If you're sick and it can't wait, then you should take your meds.
Heard an interview with an imam, he claimed that todays muslims actually got fatter during the ramadan. To think that when I was a little boy I actually thought they fasted for real (ye I was a retarded little boy).
[–]VaudevilleVillainMartial Arts 12 points13 points14 points 11 months ago
That's probably because they stuff their faces after breaking their fast, usually with unhealthy food. Just because you fast doesn't mean you will lose weight, you will need to still eat healthily.
[–]bijoudarling 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
They do. Or worse many will just adjust their clocks to sleep during the day and be up at night which defeas the whole point.
True dat. I had a couple of muslim friends at work, and boy, they ate A LOT when they could. Ramadan is quite a celebration.
I gained weight last Ramadan. I stuffed my face.
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
Thanks brother
[–]ta0910 9 points10 points11 points 11 months ago
not muslim, but have done ramadan in the past to support friends. pretty easy. as soon as the sun goes down, i down a protein shake and a few cups of water and hit the gym. no cardio, just weights and then feast afterwards. for reference, at the time i was doing 365lb deadlifts for reps. i'm used to training fasted, but the water part was the hardest. if you're feeling dehydrated, train a little later at night.
Cool I'll try that :)
[–]MyoAMGPersonal Training 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
My local gym I go to is pretty small and isn't 24/7, so here's what I do:
I get a free one week pass to bigger 'corporate' gyms such as x-sport, lifetime, la fitness, etc. and pretty much just gym hop around. During the day, I'd do the intermittent fasting diet and right after tarawee namaaz, I'd hit up the gym and stay there until suhoor. It's a lot better than going during the day; all the weights are put back, the place is clean and empty, and weight station is available. I get to use the swimming pool all alone, basket ball courts, etc. It's really nice, and I really love it!
[–]eimagery 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
Female who crossfits and is now competes in weightlifting competitions for Pakistan.
liftingcovered
[–]DropSomeFunk 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Train at night. I workout in the evenings anyways. Have a small, high calorie meal once the sun sets (some awesome dates n milk if you're old school), but nothing too heavy. Go work out an hour or 2 after the meal, then come back and eat the F out of everything in sight haha. Then wake up for suhoor and eat again. :)
Haha sorry for late reply but this comment is AWESOME I love it
[–]DropSomeFunk 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
haha np man :). Hope it helped a bit, Ramadan Kareem :)
Thanks man, Ramadan Kareem :)
[–]NUbZhangMartial Arts, Medicine (Student) 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
The Vikings (fomer?) Abdullah made it through training camp during Ramadan, had just did intermittent fasting and hydrated like crazy during the mornings as well as a protein shake in the middle of the night. http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d8199a654/article/vikings-abdullah-prepares-to-mix-30day-fast-with-football
[–]officerha 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
I have been wondering about this couple of months because Ramadan is approaching. Been a redditor for a year but posting about this didn't come to mind. I am ashamed.
Atleast you got a bro who did it for you
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
There has been a thread going about this on the rosstraining forum for years. Give it a read and you are welcome to ask questions of the community there:
http://www.rosstraining.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33835
Thanks :)
[–]antaryon 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Become atheist, acquire muscle
[–]Overman 10 points11 points12 points 11 months ago
There's really no disadvantage to becoming an atheist. It's kind of like taking creatine.
[–]Starving_Kids 17 points18 points19 points 11 months ago
Can't tell if mocking creatine
or atheism.
[–]dni 25 points26 points27 points 11 months ago
Should i cycle my atheism? Or just stay on it year round?
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 months ago
You don't need to cycle if you are just taking it in moderate amounts, however if you are doing a loading phase for Atheism you'll need to cycle to avoid straining your ego. It can be a lot of work reminding everyone on the internets you're righter than they are.
[–]waffleburner 7 points8 points9 points 11 months ago
dear fittit, how do i find a new religion
[–]Atersed 8 points9 points10 points 11 months ago
Is Starting Strength a religion?
[–]DoctorPotatoe 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago*
I believe in Rippetoe,
the Father almighty,
Creator of quads and glutes,
and in squats, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Rippletits,
born of the Virgin Bill Starr,
suffered under Brosius Curlus,
was crucified, died and was buried;
he descended into hell;
on the third day he squatted again from the dead;
he ascended into heaven,
and is squatting at the right hand of Wendler the Father almighty;
from there he will come to judge the squatting and the dead.
I believe in the Rippletits,
the holy Starting Strength Church,
the communion of squats,
the forgiveness of curls,
the resurrection of the quads,
and glutes everlasting. Oatz.
[–]antaryon 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Then Rippetoe broke the chicken breast in pieces and gave it to the disciples, saying, "Take this and eat it, for this is my body."
And he took a protein shake and gave thanks to God for it. He gave it to them and said, “Each of you drink from it, for this is my blood."
-The gospel according to Coleman 9:11-12
Nah. Rippletoad would make you drink GOMAD, not a shake.
[–]cagdas 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
And bacon.
[–]c0d3M0nk3yMartial Arts 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Very interesting read. Excellent question OP
This is also my first year to be really taking fitness seriously (first time in my life i've been committed to training 6 days a week for more than 6 months) and know that you've mentioned it, it is an excellent question
PS: thanks for the excellent answers from everyone
[–]waresmarufy 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
first year training too soo how does this fasting effect our muscle loss/growth? do we need to eat more?
[–]StinsonBeachTennis (Advanced) 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Former Bahai here, and we have a similar fast. It really depends on your schedule. I always went to lift about an hour before last light, lifted like a maniac, and then went home and got some mad gain when I was a kid. It helped that my mom cooked like she was feeding an army.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I have never tried this.
But Creatine will increase your mater retention.
And prohormones will increase muscle retention and fiber recruitment(if for some reason you want to bulk during ramadan)
So yeah, good luck with the challenge.
[–]vVvReseT 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I'm also curious about this. I'm not a power lifer, but I'm cutting/trying to gain muscles. I usually consume 160-180 grams of protein but that seems impossible with Ramadan coming.. What can I do?
[–]ColdhardtCircus Arts 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Depends on what you're doing, really.
Since I train strength, I fast during the day and carb load at iftar. Drink a lot of water, pee and then head out to the gym (in that order). Since eating full-fledged meals is a little difficult, I reach my macros using supplements.
[–]Wolfman87 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I'm a Muslim and while I'm not so hardcore I knew a guy who did football practice while fasting. No food beforehand, no water during or after. My recommendation would be to schedule your workout later in the day or early in the morning.
[–]ViendGeneral Fitness 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Train after breaking fast.
[–]HalperHalps 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I think it comes down to when you actually workout, due to school and how crowded the gym usually is during the day, I usually end up going to the gym around 9-10pm.
When Ramadan kicks in, only thing I will change is I'll probably go back to using weight gainer tho.
[–]Maniac_Munman -2 points-1 points0 points 11 months ago
I played highschool football while fasting. My suggestion, WATER. And alot of it during the early mornings. Also lots of carbs, sleep, and pacing yourself. I made sure the coaches and trainers were aware of how I was feeling. So basically, nothing really changed. It's ALL mental strength. Note: For 3 1/2 weeks, I played daily from 6am-12pm in chicago summers. So anyone can do it!
[–]always_abort_it -57 points-56 points-55 points 11 months ago
Don't believe in a primitive, backward Moon-god worshiping trash religion, and everything will turn out peachy!
[–]Th3MetalHead[S] 43 points44 points45 points 11 months ago
Thank you :)
[–]godlessatheist 7 points8 points9 points 11 months ago
The best way to reply to assholes is to be nice to them. They just don't expect that at all.
[–]officerha 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I hope that was a sarcastic thank you.
[–][deleted] -30 points-29 points-28 points 11 months ago
Why is he getting downvoted? This man speaks the truth. Funny how on reddit bashing christianity is cool, but bashing islam is evil!
[–]6offender 22 points23 points24 points 11 months ago
There are subreddits for bashing religions, this is not one of them
[–]SweetNeo85 -19 points-18 points-17 points 11 months ago*
This man's religion is clearly inhibiting his fitness goals, so it is ENITERLY APPROPRIATE.
Speak the truth about idiot broscience, you're a hero. Speak the truth about idiot religion, you're an asshole.
Whatever. You can't argue with us, so you may as well bury us, amirite?
[–]waffleburner -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago
take it to r/nongolfers
[–]Overman -20 points-19 points-18 points 11 months ago
He's not "bashing" anything, "primitive, backward Moon-god worshiping trash" are factual adjectives that describe Islam.
[–]fappingisunhealthy 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
Your logic is flawed.
[–]edpp901 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
Bashing anything isn't cool.
[–][deleted] -26 points-25 points-24 points 11 months ago
Muslims are the sworn enemy of the United states, and of the White race as a whole. Bashing them is completely acceptable.
[–]turritorstai2 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
they took our jerbs
[–]edpp901 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
Oh boy, that's news to me.
[–]mongzords 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
you're a fucking tool
[–]6offender -2 points-1 points0 points 11 months ago
Squats!
[–]waffleburner 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Good way to pass out, probably.
[–]mdbxBodybuilding -21 points-20 points-19 points 11 months ago
What about the month I must repent my sins to the flying spaghetti monster in the sky?
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 11 months ago
You are forgetting the first and only commandment of atheism. Don't be a dick.
[–]threeblades -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 months ago
Cheat.
[–]Trenks -22 points-21 points-20 points 11 months ago
Convert to christianity? haha jk. Sounds like it will be rough, but plenty doable. Whenever something seems hard and challenging I just think of WWII vets who had to fight a war with very limited supplies. If you think working out with water is difficult try killin' nazi's.
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